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August 20, 2016 - 3:24pm

Yeah I ended up biting the bullet and just pan cropping the Halo 5 clips to 'match' the halo 3 ones shield wise.  

-Text is too big

-Going to make the black bars a bit smaller as it cuts off half the score in H5

-Should I have the names go away when scoped in with snipe? Looks kind of funny to me when I have them in entire time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXQBdstl48k

August 20, 2016 - 3:30pm
General rule is having a lower third/title up for 4-5 seconds.
In reply to Wanny
August 20, 2016 - 3:34pm
So you think it would be best to just have em come in and then fade em out after a few seconds? 
August 20, 2016 - 3:40pm
Yeah, I'm no editor but definitely take the name out once you've taken it away, if that makes sense. Like when you took the name out when he scoped in with snipe, it looks weird when it reappears after.
August 20, 2016 - 4:13pm
Change the font, that looks terrible. Watch Prime and try using a font like that. Looks much cleaner and less noticeable. 
August 20, 2016 - 4:14pm
Definitely have it only appear for a short time. Idk if you know how to do this as well but maybe put the text on a luma layer and add a drop shadow? Could look nice if you wanted it in perma.
In reply to Fatal
August 20, 2016 - 4:17pm

Fatal said in General Work in Progress Chat
Change the font, that looks terrible. Watch Prime and try using a font like that. Looks much cleaner and less noticeable. 

To add to Fatal... Steelfish is a nice looking sans serif font???

August 20, 2016 - 4:25pm

TRIPLE POST I'M A FUCKING COCK.

I'm stuck on a bounce sticky betrayal on a team mate and I want to show me getting kicked from the game with a slow mo pin warp + trapcode form disintegrate and I'm really confused and ughhh, somebody give me motivation to finish this thing for the contest before I stab myself.

August 20, 2016 - 4:28pm
Change the font, and also reduce opacity to more like 50% if I were you. I'd always rather put names for too short rather than too long- if someone is really curious they can just rewind the vid or go back and watch it again. When possible, I'm in favor of just leaving off the names and then listing each player's clips in the video description.
In reply to Just Ash
August 20, 2016 - 4:38pm

Just Ash said in General Work in Progress Chat
Definitely have it only appear for a short time. Idk if you know how to do this as well but maybe put the text on a luma layer and add a drop shadow? Could look nice if you wanted it in perma.

That possible in Vegas?  Not getting any google search results.

 

Anyways yeah good call on the font guys. Was originally going to put the names in the bottom right corner and have them take up the score board ala Neighbor & Hysteria, but abandoned that due to H5/H3.

Prime text is what I'll be doing,  or something similar.

August 20, 2016 - 4:45pm
And make sure there's no names on angles or while scoped in. It looks so dumb, I made that mistake once.
In reply to Fatal
August 20, 2016 - 4:53pm

Fatal said in General Work in Progress Chat
And make sure there's no names on angles or while scoped in. It looks so dumb, I made that mistake once.

 

I don't have a single angle during the two songs so that won't be an issue lol.

What happens if a clip starts scoped in? Or scopes in very quickly? Should I wait for a part of the clip where they unscope for 3 seconds (time I'm using for fade in / out).

Here is what I've settled on in terms of font and crap. Placement ok?

 

 

Edit: I lowered the H3 text a bit so it wasn't on the hud. For clips where it scopes in real quick I'm just either going to do a super short fade in/out, first time it unscopes, or if neither of those options available for some reason, put it when it scopes. 

 

THANKS GUYS

August 20, 2016 - 5:10pm

Looks great. You could try increasing the tracking so the text goes across the entire shield bar. Might look good.

EDIT: Something like this. 

http://i.imgur.com/ij9ULCf.png?1

August 20, 2016 - 5:58pm

Better? (forgot to put an extra space between O and T)

 

 

Does it look weird having the H3 text lower on the screen to compensate for the differences in where the HUD is? Wouldn't really notice it at all since its fading in and out so I think its fine.

Edit: I'm just going to add an extra space between each letter. All three of our names are vastly different in length so they look different when trying to line it up with the health.

August 21, 2016 - 5:48am

That looks way better Eamonn!!

ps. You can't add a luma layer in Vegas as far as I know.

August 21, 2016 - 8:02am
I FIGURED OUT MY IDEA YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE SO PROUD, although at this rate that deadline is coming up pretty quick I don't think I'm gonna make it lol
August 21, 2016 - 2:30pm

nvm

August 24, 2016 - 8:54am

Here's a scrapped edit I worked on for a day about a month ago for the contest, guy didn't like the music and I didn't like his choices. This was supposed to be the end of the intro...pretty disappointed I didn't get to see it through, really thought this intro was gonna be the tits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sddE2TJpqGU

I have a bunch more of these from other scrapped edits if anyone is interested.

 

August 24, 2016 - 9:29am
Evadur's gameplay is so sick. Would've loved to see what you did with that tage.
August 24, 2016 - 9:29am
Evadur's gameplay is so sick. Would've loved to see what you did with that tage.
In reply to Fatal
August 24, 2016 - 10:47am
Yes it was, disappointed he wasn't liking my plans for his video. But in the end he worked hard for that gameplay, so up to him to make a decision.
August 24, 2016 - 12:06pm

Another Montage 7 Update:

http://imgur.com/a/VMcns

In reply to HAble
August 24, 2016 - 2:39pm
glad to see im not alone
August 24, 2016 - 8:10pm
Finished the edit for Deany's submission. Got some screenshots of the project files which are always personally satisfying for me to see. Also added in some extra screenshots showing some visuals to give a little taste of what the video's like:
 

 

August 24, 2016 - 9:07pm

Holy shit that's a lot of markers lol. Here's the project files for Joey's and Trunk's montages.

http://i.imgur.com/VuoBOm6.png

August 25, 2016 - 9:24am
oh you don't even want to see the one I've got going right now, it doesn't even fit on my full screen lmao
In reply to Fatal
August 25, 2016 - 10:37am
So the 4th and 3rd tracks of your files are muted, and I'm curious as to why that is. If it has anything to do with how you make such clean and perfect videos with beautiful angles, then I wanna know how lol. Or maybe it's just because you test out ideas on that track or something.
August 25, 2016 - 10:44pm

Guys, it's happening. I actually started today!

In reply to Sucky
August 26, 2016 - 12:09am
In my editing process, I'll begin by syncing all the clips and angles with no effects or transitions, render in chunks and do effects/colours in AE, and then render back and re-assemble it in Vegas. The muted track is the initial stage of the montage, just the synced clips and angles. The track above it is the same clip but after I've taken it through AE.
In reply to Fatal
August 26, 2016 - 12:25am

Fatal said in General Work in Progress Chat
In my editing process, I'll begin by syncing all the clips and angles with no effects or transitions, render in chunks and do effects/colours in AE, and then render back and re-assemble it in Vegas. The muted track is the initial stage of the montage, just the synced clips and angles. The track above it is the same clip but after I've taken it through AE.

I do the same thing but stop at the step before "render in chunks and do effects/colours in AE". 

In reply to Fatal
August 26, 2016 - 12:37am

That's cool and sort of 'professional' in a way, and it's all the more reason I should probably start using AE myself. I always end up rerendering in vegas, but AE seems to pump out more ambient renders from what ive seen

August 26, 2016 - 12:56am
Just rendering out of AE doesn't make it look nicer lol. It's usually because of added motion blur, better colour correction tools, etc. that it'll make your video look nicer than if you edit just in Vegas. I think you can get Magic Bullet for Vegas though which gives you a lot more options when it comes to colour correction.
In reply to Fatal
August 26, 2016 - 1:15am
yeah I didn't really clarify in my sentence, but i realize that rendering normal, unedited footage in either program is going to give you the exact same result. I meant that AE seems to offer more "ambient" renders precisely because there are more advanced tools at your disposal. Nobody renders previously rendered footage without adding something to it, but AE allows you to get the most out of that process from what I've gathered basically.
In reply to Fatal
August 26, 2016 - 1:34am

Fatal said in General Work in Progress Chat
Just rendering out of AE doesn't make it look nicer lol. It's usually because of added motion blur, better colour correction tools, etc. that it'll make your video look nicer than if you edit just in Vegas. I think you can get Magic Bullet for Vegas though which gives you a lot more options when it comes to colour correction.

Even Magic Bullet is better in AE honestly. I still use Vegas because I'm an absolute moron when it comes to rendering out of AE, but the quality is much nicer and AE has much nicer color grading.

Just need some angles tomorrow night and I'm ready to put the CC, transitions, and final effects on Montage 7 :)

In reply to HAble
August 26, 2016 - 1:57am
Wow, that was fast af. You need staging dummies?
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