That was a retarded ending. Does that happen in the books?
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D&D have been so incredibly blatant with the foreshadowing this season and their writing is getting so lazy too. It's getting quite annoying honestly.
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Such a disappointing season honestly. A lot of people are going to blame just the show but I think even the books greatly dropped in quality after the third. They're just so damn boring and predictable for now.
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you have to close the spoiler box in the post creator for it to be posted closed
but yeah it didnt leave me very excited
Yes it does but it makes much more sense and the Watch actually has a good reason for doing it.
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I doubt he's actually dead for good though. The Wall is one of the most important settings in the series and Jon is the only character anyone cares about on it. Unless they follow Tormund or something next season, I don't see how it's going to be entertaining or why anyone is going to care without Jon.
I think there may be more to Jon's death that the show was able to foreshadow for us. Which would make what happened somewhat okay with me, otherwise I have no idea where they are going with the story anymore. The watch did it for revenge, but when it comes to the fallout and what will happen to the refugee wildlings. I don't think they thought that out.
Honestly, if Jon is actually dead, I'm hoping Tormund takes the Wildlings, kills the remaining Night's Watch members at Castle Black and takes control of it and the other castles along the wall himself. I'd rather have the Wildlings who have seen the White Walkers and Wights in action defend the wall over a bunch of idiotic criminals.
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After so many deaths, it doesnt give off the same effect like it used to.
Oh boy, maybe you're supposed to feel that way about Jon. Fkn Olly man... HBO man, I swear...
Melisandre is a bigger character than they're leading you all on to believe. That's why I love the show, this hype is nuts right now for me.
I've actually thoroughly enjoyed this season very much tbh.
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ah right my bad, fixeroonies
Yeah, I pointed that out. They showed Thoros reviving Beric and claimed he had done so six times overall. And Thoros even claimed that he had lost faith in the Lord of Light but he decided to say the words anyways even though he didn't think they'd work. So he wasn't even doing any special magic to revive him. He just said a few words and the Lord of Light did the rest.
Honestly, if Jon is actually dead, I'm hoping Tormund takes the Wildlings, kills the remaining Night's Watch members at Castle Black and takes control of it and the other castles along the wall himself. I'd rather have the Wildlings who have seen the White Walkers and Wights in action defend the wall over a bunch of idiotic criminals.
Srsly. They broke my heart. -___-
I think most of them died which is why the ones who stayed at Castle Black are even angrier. Men of the Night's Watch died to save the elderly, children, and a few warriors of the Wildlings. I don't think the Thorne and co. would've been as angry with Jon if he had brought back all the soldiers from Hardhome but since most of them died fighting the Wights and White Walkers, all they have now is more mouths to feed and people to care for with no extra help.
Maybe the Watch does believe Jon and the rest but they just don't care because they hate him or maybe they don't believe them at all. Either way, they're idiots lol.
I think most of them died which is why the ones who stayed at Castle Black are even angrier. Men of the Night's Watch died to save the elderly, children, and a few warriors of the Wildlings. I don't think the Thorne and co. would've been as angry with Jon if he had brought back all the soldiers from Hardhome but since most of them died fighting the Wights and White Walkers, all they have now is more mouths to feed and people to care for with no extra help.
Maybe the Watch does believe Jon and the rest but they just don't care because they hate him or maybe they don't believe them at all. Either way, they're idiots lol.
I understand your post, but they're not idiots for what they did. Before I go into detail here why, first, have you read the books?
I read the first three, got bored of AFFC so I just read a huge synopsis and then read most of ADWD. The reason they do it in the books makes a lot of sense and I don't blame them for that. Their reasoning for killing him in the show makes no sense at all. They have multiple eye witnesses who have seen the White Walkers and the army of the dead for themselves but they refuse to listen and keep antagonizing Jon for things he has to do to increase their chances of defeating the White Walkers. The men of the Watch are idiots in the show.
I read the first three, got bored of AFFC so I just read a huge synopsis and then read most of ADWD. The reason they do it in the books makes a lot of sense and I don't blame them for that. Their reasoning for killing him in the show makes no sense at all. They have multiple eye witnesses who have seen the White Walkers and the army of the dead for themselves but they refuse to listen and keep antagonizing Jon for things he has to do to increase their chances of defeating the White Walkers. The men of the Watch are idiots in the show.
Exactly, the Night's Watch are idiots in the show (fucking Olly man, hope Jon offs him) but not idiots in the book.
During war/crisis the NW have always remained neutral and stayed true to their reason for living: Protecting the Wall. Fuck the Wilding's, fuck everything else, fuck the War, they did what they did in the books/show because they were afraid of losing their Lord Commander to a "greater cause" thus watering down their "reason for living."
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